Personally I dont see a problem with it. Im sure there are several types of stamps that are similiar given the number of boxes there are across the country. Ill bet that any series you want to do there is something similiar...and whos to know if there isnt another Pirates stamp in another state...how would you possibly know unless you looked at all clues in all states.

Id say go for it...your state bird carving will be unique as will the others that are already placed.

Just my 2cents.
TDG
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From: Rayvenhaus
To: LBNA
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:50 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Multiple stamps of the same thing........


I've got a question and I'm asking this in the sincerest means possible, I have not hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, nothing other than curiosity.

Is there an unspoken rule that only one carving of something can 'exist' at once? In other words, my grandiose plans of planting a stamp in each of the 50 states of the Union, and choosing to depict the State Bird of the state each box is placed in..... Does this constitute a transgression? Can only one stamp of something exist at one time? Should one carving of something exist at one time? Does the fact that someone else carves it, make it 'different'?

In example, can no one ever carve anything related to the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' because Team Rayvenhaus already has? If someone else has carved Pirates Flags before, can no one else ever do it again?

Please share you thoughts with me on this, I am interested on knowing.

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"Great minds run in the same channel" and "Fools think alike" Take
your pick as to which adage applies to letterboxers. :D A quick
search on the word "Pirate" turned up six boxes, not counting yours or
the one that I plan on planting in the spring. Call it variations on
a theme. When I logged the HH "Golden Snitch" on W&P's page, I
discovered that I had "Golden Snitch #2". I'm sure there are other
that are nearly identical. If we could never do anything that
resembled something done before, there wouldn't be any new
letterboxes, because pretty nearly everything that you can do with a
letterbox has been done at least once.
-- Dagonell the Pirate
http://www-cs.canisius.edu/~salley/Letterboxing

--- "Rayvenhaus" wrote:
> I've got a question and I'm asking this in the sincerest means
possible, I have not hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, nothing other
than curiosity.
>
> Is there an unspoken rule that only one carving of something can
'exist' at once? In other words, my grandiose plans of planting a
stamp in each of the 50 states of the Union, and choosing to depict
the State Bird of the state each box is placed in..... Does this
constitute a transgression? Can only one stamp of something exist at
one time? Should one carving of something exist at one time? Does the
fact that someone else carves it, make it 'different'?
>
> In example, can no one ever carve anything related to the 'Pirates
of the Caribbean' because Team Rayvenhaus already has? If someone
else has carved Pirates Flags before, can no one else ever do it again?
>
> Please share you thoughts with me on this, I am interested on knowing.
>
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> Steve of Rayvenhaus
> NLC Website: http://www.myndworx.com
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Carve whatever you want.
I already made a RI Red stamp for RI but why can't there be 2? I'm
sure yours won't look like mine. Many stamp carvings begin as
clipart anyway. So who can really claim it as original?
Laurette



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Rayvenhaus"
wrote:
> I've got a question and I'm asking this in the sincerest means
possible, I have not hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, nothing
other than curiosity.
>
> Is there an unspoken rule that only one carving of something
can 'exist' at once? In other words, my grandiose plans of planting
a stamp in each of the 50 states of the Union, and choosing to depict
the State Bird of the state each box is placed in..... Does this
constitute a transgression? Can only one stamp of something exist at
one time? Should one carving of something exist at one time? Does
the fact that someone else carves it, make it 'different'?
>
> In example, can no one ever carve anything related to the 'Pirates
of the Caribbean' because Team Rayvenhaus already has? If someone
else has carved Pirates Flags before, can no one else ever do it
again?
>
> Please share you thoughts with me on this, I am interested on
knowing.
>
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> Steve of Rayvenhaus
> NLC Website: http://www.myndworx.com
> Team Rayvenhaus PFX: http://www.myndworx.com/rayvenhaus
> "We leave nothing but an image to mark our passage."
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>
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I personally like seeing variations on a theme (yes, i do enjoy jazz).
Each stamp is a small piece of art and it is always interesting to see how
othes interpret something. Frequently gives me new perspective.

I am stil new enough not to be aware of unspoken rules, but it wouldlseem to
me that this is--or should be-- a non-issue.

I actually had planned on writing a huge discourse on this, but that pretty
much says it all.


Mama Stork




Is there an unspoken rule that only one carving of something can 'exist'
at once? In other words, my grandiose plans of planting a stamp in each of
the 50 states of the Union, and choosing to depict the State Bird of the
state each box is placed in..... Does this constitute a transgression? Can
only one stamp of something exist at one time? Should one carving of
something exist at one time? Does the fact that someone else carves it, make
it 'different'?


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Good day Steve,



I might be of a very different opinion than the rest of the group but my
personal thought on it is that there can be more than one of anything so
long as they are in distinctly different locations.

For example, I would like to do a Lord of The Rings Series however I did
not do it while living in California because of the Middle Earth Series that
is planted there.



I have done the Monsters Inc. Series and the Fate of the Childhood Series
here so far in Oregon, with some things in the works for Peanuts and
Vampires. Now personally several other people have carved Peanut stamps
recently, I have no problem with that. Now if someone else carved them and
planted them in the same area I did I might be a bit offended.



I think there is also the point of redundancy. Personally if I had one
series of stamps that was designed after Peanuts for example, and someone
else planted another one near by, it would not move to the top of my to
find list as a matter of fact it would be on the bottom, just because I
already have stamps like that.



Just my two cents

pandora{HIB}

>
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:50:41 -0800
> From: "Rayvenhaus"
> Subject: Multiple stamps of the same thing........
>
> I've got a question and I'm asking this in the sincerest means possible, I
have not hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, nothing other than curiosity.
>
> Is there an unspoken rule that only one carving of something can 'exist'
at once? In other words, my grandiose plans of planting a stamp in each of
the 50 states of the Union, and choosing to depict the State Bird of the
state each box is placed in..... Does this constitute a transgression? Can
only one stamp of something exist at one time? Should one carving of
something exist at one time? Does the fact that someone else carves it, make
it 'different'?
>
> In example, can no one ever carve anything related to the 'Pirates of the
Caribbean' because Team Rayvenhaus already has? If someone else has carved
Pirates Flags before, can no one else ever do it again?
>
> Please share you thoughts with me on this, I am interested on knowing.
>
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> Steve of Rayvenhaus
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> I might be of a very different opinion than the rest of the group
> but my personal thought on it is that there can be more than one of
> anything so long as they are in distinctly different locations.

I think Pandora has a good point. There are no unwritten rules about
planting similar boxes, but there are good reasons to try to make
your stamps a little bit different from everyone else--including the
one Pandora mentioned.

I was going to hide a stamp of a snake in my early letterboxing
career--until I realized that I already had three of them in my
logbook! So I carved a worm instead (I had a long, narrow piece of
carving material left and my subjects were limited to long, narrow
animals)--still the only letterbox with a worm stamp that I know of
which makes it extra cute and special. =)

Geographical location would make a difference too. Hiding identical
stamps on both coasts probably isn't a big deal for most people since
very few letterboxers would have a chance to get both sets. But in
the same city, such a plan would be disastrous. Who wants a bunch of
identical images? And when they're that close together, you can be
sure some people (not all, but some) would skip one of the series
completely. (Which is okay, if you don't mind people not looking for
your series.)

As for the state bird in all 50 states--you're on safe ground there.
You surely won't be carving identical stamps of already hidden
birds. And even then, your series would distinguish itself by being
a nationwide series--not quite the same as the lone bird stamp hiding
out in the woods.

-- Ryan

Well, here's my two cents on the subject (although it's probably only
worth about half a cent now on this board).

I say go for it! IMO, every stamp is different, even if they're
exactly the same image. Everyone carves differently, and I think
that's what makes letterboxing such a personal hobby. In one day, we
found two boxes with almost identical stamps. The slight differences
were probably because they were carved by different people. Was one
stamp better than the other? Nope, just different.
And if you've ever eaten at Arby's, you know that "Different is
good!" :)

NeverEnuff

Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts an feelings on
this.

Steve

Carve what you want... although I do think some good points were
made about trying to make the stamps unique.

I think you will already run into some interesting problems to solve
in that 5 states have selected the Western Meadowlark as their state
bird and another 5 all opt for the Mockingbird.

vix

"Can only one stamp of something exist at one time? Should one carving of
something exist at one time?"

That which has been is what will be,
That which is done is what will be done,
And there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there anything of which might be said,
"See, this is new"?
It has already been done in ancient times before us.

Ecclesiastes 1:9&10
~Beth





>From: "Lisa Cook"
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [LbNA] Multiple stamps of the same thing........
>Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:07:18 -0700
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rayvenhaus
> To: LBNA
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:50 AM
> Subject: [LbNA] Multiple stamps of the same thing........
>
>
> I've got a question and I'm asking this in the sincerest means possible,
>I have not hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, nothing other than
>curiosity.
>
> Is there an unspoken rule that only one carving of something can 'exist'
>at once? In other words, my grandiose plans of planting a stamp in each of
>the 50 states of the Union, and choosing to depict the State Bird of the
>state each box is placed in..... Does this constitute a transgression?
>Can only one stamp of something exist at one time? Should one carving of
>something exist at one time? Does the fact that someone else carves it,
>make it 'different'?
>
> In example, can no one ever carve anything related to the 'Pirates of
>the Caribbean' because Team Rayvenhaus already has? If someone else has
>carved Pirates Flags before, can no one else ever do it again?
>
> Please share you thoughts with me on this, I am interested on knowing.
>
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Note: You can have a difference several ways, if you want to. Place the bird within an outline of the state. Have the bird hold something unique from the state (like a Rhode Island Red maintaining a quahog in one wing or in his beak). Put the bird next to a representation of something from the state, like the Gateway Arch or the Washington Monument. Does D.C. get a bird? We always seem to be giving it to them...

Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: gromit459
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Multiple stamps of the same thing........


Carve what you want... although I do think some good points were
made about trying to make the stamps unique.

I think you will already run into some interesting problems to solve
in that 5 states have selected the Western Meadowlark as their state
bird and another 5 all opt for the Mockingbird.

vix


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--- "dave & diane" wrote:
> Does D.C. get a bird? We always seem to be giving it to them...
> Dave
> the von der Insels

D.C.'s bird is the Wood Thrush. Their flower is the American Beauty
Rose. Their motto is "Justitia Omnibus" (Justice to all) Additional
information can be found on http://www.50states.com (Scroll down below
the states to the the Commonwealths and Territories section).
-- Dagonell the Pirate
http://www-cs.canisius.edu/~salley/Letterboxing